Episode 28

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Published on:

10th Mar 2025

Healing from Trauma & Finding Purpose | Maurice F. Martin’s Breakthrough Story

🎧 Episode Overview

🔥 Your past may have shaped you, but it doesn’t define you. ~ Maurice F. Martin


What do you do when you feel stuck, broken, and searching for something more? How do you heal from wounds you never asked for? Maurice F. Martin knows that struggle—he lived it.


In this episode of Grace in the Grind, Maurice shares his raw, unfiltered journey from pain to purpose—breaking free from childhood trauma, father wounds, and the deep doubts that held him back. This isn’t just a story about healing. It’s a call to action.


💥 Inside this conversation, we unpack:


Breaking free from past pain & stepping into healing.


Why faith is the foundation for transformation.


The hardest part of healing—and why most people avoid it.


How to stop searching for worth and start walking in it.


Turning trauma into testimony—your story has power.


📌 If you’ve ever felt stuck, unseen, or like your past is holding you back—this is your wake-up call.


💡 Stop searching. Start healing.


📺 Watch on YouTube & Subscribe! www.leadwithim.live


💡 Key Takeaways from This Episode


🔴 Your Pain Has a Purpose


  • Your wounds don’t disqualify you—they prepare you.
  • Everything you’ve been through has shaped your story. Now, it’s time to own it.
  • Your past may have broken you, but it doesn’t have to define you.


🔴 The Hardest Part of Healing? Facing Yourself


  • You can’t heal what you refuse to confront.
  • Forgiveness isn’t weakness—it’s the key to freedom.
  • The most dangerous lie? Believing you’ll never be enough.


🔴 Faith, Breakthrough & Walking in Purpose


  • Faith doesn’t erase pain—it helps you push through it.
  • Your identity isn’t in what happened to you—it’s in what God says about you.
  • Healing isn’t an event, it’s a process—start walking in it.


💬 Power Quotes from Maurice F. Martin


🔥 "Everything you need, you already have."


🔥 "Your past may have shaped you, but it doesn’t define you."


🔥 "Stop searching for healing—start walking in it."


🔥 "You don’t need to be perfect to be powerful."


🔥 "Your pain has a purpose. It’s time to see it."


📚 Resources & Links Mentioned


📖 Maurice’s Books & Resources:


🌍 Website: Maurice F. 's Website


📲 Instagram: @Mauricefmartin on Instagram


📸 Facebook: Maurice F. 's Facebook page


🐣 X: @Mauricefmartin on X

📺 Youtube: Maurice F. on YouTube


🎯 Take the Next Step!


💡 If you’re done letting your past control you, connect with Maurice: Maurice F. 's Website


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Transcript
Speaker A:

Welcome to Grace and the Grind, the podcast where we dive deep into the journeys of heart centered and purpose driven leaders and entrepreneurs.

Speaker A:

We're here to equip and encourage you on your journey.

Speaker A:

So let's get started and find the grace within the grind.

Speaker A:

This is Grace in the Grind.

Speaker A:

And now your host, Jim Burgoon.

Speaker B:

Welcome to Grace in the Grind.

Speaker B:

We're here to tell the inspiring stories behind some of the most successful entrepreneurs.

Speaker B:

And today to the show, we just would like to welcome our new friend, Maurice.

Speaker B:

Welcome to the show, sir.

Speaker C:

Hey, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker C:

I'm excited about this conversation.

Speaker B:

Same.

Speaker B:

So take the next 30 to actually 60 to 90 seconds and tell people what you do.

Speaker C:

Ooh, 60 to 90, that's a dangerous.

Speaker C:

It's a dangerous period of time for me.

Speaker C:

So I am a motivational speaker.

Speaker C:

I am a transformational life coach.

Speaker C:

I'm an author, a Christian counselor.

Speaker C:

I'm a whole bunch of things.

Speaker C:

The easy way to say it is that, and we'll get into it later on.

Speaker C:

But I'm a person who had to transform his life.

Speaker C:

I started off my career as a professional speaker in my 20s.

Speaker C:

I had the opportunity to work with Grammy winners and Emmy winners and to make a little bit of headway in the music industry.

Speaker C:

But behind closed doors, I was just a very broken and bitter person, very dark in a lot of ways.

Speaker C:

And so as I transformed, I realized that the truest gift that I have is the gift of helping other people to transform.

Speaker C:

So whether I'm in front of a room full of people, or I'm working with a business, or speaking in front of a school, or I'm sitting down one on one with an individual.

Speaker C:

The goal is always not just to motivate you, but to motivate you to change and motivate you to build habits that can shift your life in a new direction.

Speaker B:

Awesome.

Speaker B:

Thank you for that wonderful intro.

Speaker B:

And so let's, let's.

Speaker B:

I want to actually start the conversation off because you said something is my gift is helping others and particularly helping others to change.

Speaker B:

When did you start noticing that was your gift?

Speaker C:

Oh, that's a great question.

Speaker C:

Here's the funny part is that I've known my entire life that was a gift.

Speaker C:

But sometimes gifts look like burdens in the wrong part of life.

Speaker C:

So what I mean by that is that for most of my life, I remember being 12, 13, and I'd have a crush on whatever girl and she'd say, hey, is it okay if I call you later?

Speaker C:

And I'd be Like, oh my gosh, this is it.

Speaker C:

This is the girl that I've been waiting to call me.

Speaker C:

And when she would call, she would say, somebody told me you were good at this.

Speaker C:

What am I good at?

Speaker C:

And right.

Speaker C:

And it would be somebody asking me for things, feedback, asking me for wisdom, asking me for advice.

Speaker C:

By the time I got into the professional world, it was similar.

Speaker C:

I was the training manager of a facility and then I was a corporate trainer.

Speaker C:

So I, I was a musician.

Speaker C:

And I would tour on the weekends and I would work jobs during the week.

Speaker C:

And people would come to me with their problems, with their issues, with when, when they felt struck, when they, when they felt stuck, when they felt just overwhelmed.

Speaker C:

And I always had a way of listening to them and giving them healthy perspective.

Speaker C:

But at those times in my life, it felt like a burden.

Speaker C:

It felt, I know, ain't nobody paying me to do this.

Speaker C:

Why am I giving this person all this stuff?

Speaker C:

Later on I realized that what felt like a burden was a blessing.

Speaker C:

But that took maturity and growth and realizing, wow, it was staring me in the face the whole time.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's great.

Speaker B:

First and foremost, man, getting dates only to find out they just wanted what you had.

Speaker C:

Oh, it was.

Speaker C:

I had some.

Speaker C:

I could.

Speaker C:

That happened more times than I could, than I'd like to admit.

Speaker B:

I'm now seeing why.

Speaker B:

We're going to dig into why the bitterness and where that came from.

Speaker B:

Because you had mentioned that in your intro.

Speaker C:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

Maybe this is part of where that came from, but we'll dig into that in a second.

Speaker B:

So you mentioned something about being maturing and seeing the difference between burden and blessing and stuff like that.

Speaker B:

Did you find that because you were naturally good at helping people, did you find that there was an arrogance to that eventually developed into much more of a humble servant as opposed to an arrogant come see me kind of thing?

Speaker B:

Was that something you dealt with?

Speaker C:

That's a great question.

Speaker C:

I would say that.

Speaker C:

No, it didn't turn to arrogance for me, but it did definitely for me turn into a very self seeking thing.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

That.

Speaker C:

So that the audience knows a little bit of my history.

Speaker C:

I.

Speaker C:

My mom and dad had me.

Speaker C:

That's how life starts.

Speaker C:

There's no stork.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

And dad left immediately and mom marries a different man.

Speaker C:

That man is very abusive towards her.

Speaker C:

And as I grow older, becomes very abusive towards me.

Speaker C:

Physically abusive, even more so.

Speaker C:

Mentally abusive, verbally abusive.

Speaker C:

And so I grew up in this household where my head is always on a swivel and my heart is always crushed in other Words, I'm beat up and beat down and told what I can never do and what I can never be.

Speaker C:

And so low self esteem and low self worth were really a part of my identity.

Speaker C:

I identified as being a person who didn't think much of himself.

Speaker C:

So now when you ask me a question, what happened to you when you started helping people?

Speaker C:

Now I need you to tell me how much I helped.

Speaker C:

I need to hear how great I was at helping you.

Speaker C:

Because if not, I'm not sure if my life has meaning, and I'm not sure if my life has worth.

Speaker C:

And so when I first really, when I first became a counselor and then when I first started preaching and teaching and just so many of the things that I do in life, people would come to me and say, maurice, like, you made such an impact on me a week ago, a month ago, whatever.

Speaker C:

I can only get better if you keep helping me.

Speaker C:

And that's an ego stroke.

Speaker C:

Right, right.

Speaker C:

But ultimately, how I look at things as a professional and as an entrepreneur is I do my job well when I equip you to do yours.

Speaker B:

That's right.

Speaker C:

So you start to understand I'm thankful that I helped you.

Speaker C:

And by all means, I'm willing to help you again, but I want to help you.

Speaker C:

And that's the maturation I needed.

Speaker B:

I like that.

Speaker B:

So this brings up another question, because I know the listeners, like I'm a former pastor and I know several.

Speaker B:

Some of my listeners are ministry.

Speaker B:

And we see a lot of, especially in ministry, a lot of code.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

I need to be needed.

Speaker B:

So with you searching for this hole to be filled, because that's really what that is.

Speaker B:

I'm filling the self esteem that I never had.

Speaker B:

How did you find?

Speaker B:

There was the maturing, but there had to be a healing process.

Speaker B:

What does that look like?

Speaker C:

Oh, how.

Speaker C:

What does it still look like?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

I believe that healing is lifelong.

Speaker C:

for me in my life was it was:

Speaker C:

My music career by then had fizzled.

Speaker C:

I was in my early 30s and my music career had fallen apart.

Speaker C:

I was working full time and I was really working jobs where I was making the most money I'd ever made.

Speaker C:

But I was miserable.

Speaker C:

I was empty.

Speaker C:

I wasn't feeling like I was making an impact.

Speaker C:

And by then I was drunk almost every night.

Speaker C:

I was high almost every day.

Speaker C:

I was just in a very dark place.

Speaker C:

The suicidal thought started to creep up and creep in, and I literally was waking up day after day, like, upset.

Speaker C:

Why am I awake today?

Speaker C:

Why is this life Thing still happening.

Speaker C:

got in a car one day, June of:

Speaker C:

Like, I don't know if I'm going to go off to the left with my car and swerve into the embankment.

Speaker C:

Am I going to go right?

Speaker C:

How can I just get this over with?

Speaker C:

Because I don't want to do this life thing anymore.

Speaker C:

And I had what I can only call the divine encounter that I heard the voice of God for the first time.

Speaker C:

In that moment, I actually had a vision.

Speaker C:

And I don't always talk about it, but I'll share it with your audience.

Speaker C:

Today I had a vision where I was standing on a stage.

Speaker C:

So I go from driving down the road, I'm going about 90 miles per hour, I'm thinking about killing myself.

Speaker C:

And all of a sudden, I'm in the middle of a vision.

Speaker C:

And I'm standing on the stage in the back left of the stage.

Speaker C:

I'm looking out towards the right of the stage, and there are people as far as the eye could see.

Speaker C:

And I'm preaching the word of God.

Speaker C:

And at that point, I would have probably called myself agnostic, maybe.

Speaker C:

I mean, I went to church as a kid and everything, and I believed that God was real.

Speaker C:

But I was not praying every day.

Speaker C:

I was not in my word.

Speaker C:

I was not really moving in that direction.

Speaker C:

And I saw that I heard myself preaching.

Speaker C:

And immediately I was back in my car, and God was speaking.

Speaker C:

And it was the first time I'd ever heard his voice.

Speaker C:

And so after that moment, it was a defining moment because I realized I was going to have to change and I was going to have to heal.

Speaker C:

And I knew it was going to be painful.

Speaker C:

And so from that point, it was therapy sessions, it was prayer.

Speaker C:

It was eventually speech, spiritual guidance as I joined the church and then started getting honest with people, pastors and elders of the church and things like that.

Speaker C:

And it was just several years.

Speaker C:

And what I tell people now is they say, how did you do it?

Speaker C:

And I always say, how am I doing it?

Speaker C:

I'm still healing.

Speaker C:

I'm still saying, God, there are broken parts of me that I'm giving to you and surrendering to you, because I don't want to stay broken or I want you to be able to get the glory from my brokenness.

Speaker C:

And that's the consistent heart posture for me.

Speaker B:

I love that.

Speaker B:

So this brings up a whole plethora of questions.

Speaker B:

Okay, we're going to start with this one, because I find this, this is something that a lot of think people struggle with.

Speaker B:

The navigation, you said something super powerful, which was, I'm still healing.

Speaker B:

It took several years.

Speaker B:

How do you navigate in a lot of church world?

Speaker B:

I'll just use church world where it's, if I pray, I should be instantly healed versus this is a lifelong process because they are not the same.

Speaker C:

They're not.

Speaker C:

I always point people to scriptures.

Speaker C:

I think that for us as believers, we always have to be grounded in the word of God and sometimes we have to pay attention even to what the word doesn't say.

Speaker C:

So as an issue, as an example, the woman with the issue of blood, we talk about her a lot.

Speaker C:

She falls on the feet of Jesus, she reaches for the hem of her garment, she gets the healing from him.

Speaker C:

Jesus says, then go and sin no more.

Speaker C:

Your faith has healed you.

Speaker C:

Right?

Speaker C:

She has to now go live the rest of her life.

Speaker C:

And part of what she's going to live is understanding that for 12 years she'd been an outcast of society.

Speaker C:

She was unclean, so she could not go and be around some of the people.

Speaker C:

And there's going to be a remnant of memories and maybe even depression or sadness or anxiety or whatever it is that she has to deal with.

Speaker C:

She has to go live life.

Speaker C:

What I always tell people is when you see the moment that they meet God, that is then the proof that they will need God for the rest of the journey.

Speaker C:

It's not the moment where God makes you so fixed that you don't need Him.

Speaker C:

It's that's the moment that proves that you do need Him.

Speaker C:

That's where you start to really pray.

Speaker C:

That's when you start to really trust.

Speaker C:

That's the beginning of the journey, not the end.

Speaker C:

And so I think sometimes in our name it and claim it, kind of a society where we almost take, tell it that if you pray God will do it, then it's done.

Speaker C:

Those words are all true.

Speaker C:

But that doesn't mean that you don't still need God, right?

Speaker C:

You still need God in the midst of it as he's doing what he's doing.

Speaker C:

Because he's not just doing it, he's working on you.

Speaker C:

Sometimes when I pray for something, God is not just trying to do what I asked for.

Speaker C:

He's.

Speaker C:

He wants to do more than that.

Speaker C:

The word says exceedingly, abundantly more than you can ask or think.

Speaker C:

Which means that I'm like, hey, God, I could use success in my business.

Speaker C:

And God is like, you could use that, but you could also use to Be healed in this area, to be fixed in this area, to mature in this area, to grow and develop in that area.

Speaker C:

God wants more for me than I want for myself.

Speaker C:

Absolutely.

Speaker C:

And that's something that you can clearly see in the word.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker B:

There's even ports.

Speaker B:

Parts where I, over the years, talking with people, God wants to be successful inside of you before you're successful externally.

Speaker B:

And I think we miss that because we all want external.

Speaker B:

Which goes back to your story.

Speaker B:

Trying to use what's around us to fill us.

Speaker C:

Yes, absolutely.

Speaker C:

No, I was just gonna say, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker C:

That's a hundred percent it.

Speaker C:

God is enough.

Speaker C:

But it's hard for us in our feeble understanding of life to get that.

Speaker C:

And when I say feeble, I'm not dissing anybody.

Speaker C:

I'm saying, for me included, I think that most of us have a desire to play God.

Speaker C:

We think we know what's best.

Speaker C:

We think we know what the situation needs and we don't.

Speaker C:

God knows.

Speaker B:

That's it.

Speaker B:

So now let's take a layer off.

Speaker B:

Let's.

Speaker B:

All right, we're healing.

Speaker B:

We've got some foundational stuff.

Speaker B:

We've chatted.

Speaker B:

Let's talk about the ramifications of an absent father.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And then not only just the absent father, but the abusive father.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

How did that play into the deepening of looking in other external places for validation?

Speaker B:

And then how does it change throughout your life to where now you're a father?

Speaker B:

Take me through some of the journey of the struggles from being in that environment to where you are now.

Speaker C:

Such a great question.

Speaker C:

I really believe that a mother's role is incredibly important, and we live in a society that tries to dampen it.

Speaker C:

And the same is true of a father's role and a father's voice.

Speaker C:

And so the one of the first things that you asked about was the void of a father.

Speaker C:

And so I grew up always wondering what was wrong with me that Daddy didn't stay.

Speaker C:

That was a very real thought as a very young kid.

Speaker C:

And then to wonder, why did mommy marry somebody that daddy doesn't want?

Speaker C:

Excuse me, that doesn't want me.

Speaker C:

That was very real for my life.

Speaker C:

And so I certainly looked for validation over the years and so many different places, including as a musician standing on stages, trying to sell albums, things that I've done, wanting somebody to make me feel like my good enough was good enough.

Speaker C:

The breaking point for me really was that I realized at some point, boy, this is going to be tough for me to trust the heavenly Father if I don't trust the Father.

Speaker C:

And so I had to be willing to really take a deep dive into healing those father wounds.

Speaker C:

Because when you tell me God is a good father, I don't know what that means.

Speaker C:

I don't have a comprehension of that.

Speaker C:

I know that my father was someone to be afraid of.

Speaker C:

I know that.

Speaker C:

I was told that.

Speaker C:

That his harshest moments were the ones where he said, I love you afterwards.

Speaker C:

And those were the only moments he said, I love you.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker C:

So when you tell me that God is a loving father, I'm like, oh, God, what is that going to mean for my life?

Speaker C:

Is he going to punish me all the time?

Speaker C:

Is he going to be harsh on me all the time?

Speaker C:

And so I think that I am.

Speaker C:

I'm not the.

Speaker C:

The deviation to the norm.

Speaker C:

I think I'm more normal than people understand that that are broken relationships with parents or grandparents or aunties and uncles or whoever it is who have been our caretakers directly impact how we view God.

Speaker B:

They do.

Speaker C:

They absolutely do.

Speaker C:

And we have to be willing to go on the journey of letting God show us his true character.

Speaker C:

Know that.

Speaker C:

That God will never leave you nor forsake you, that God paid the ultimate price for you out of love.

Speaker C:

And that even when God judges, even when God chastises those he chastises, he hastens like that.

Speaker C:

Even when there is anything that comes to me, it's coming out of love, out of wanting to be back in order, wanting to meet me, to be back in alignment in his good graces.

Speaker C:

And so that has been a journey.

Speaker C:

I will tell everybody.

Speaker C:

I've done more therapy sessions than you could understand.

Speaker C:

I've done what's called emdr, which is trauma therapy.

Speaker C:

I have done more journal entries, more prayers of forgiveness than you could possibly know, because I want to have a more pure understanding of who God is.

Speaker B:

So now this brings up some.

Speaker B:

Really, this brings up a curiosity for me as somebody who has a father wound, abusive father, abandoned, all that stuff too.

Speaker B:

Did you.

Speaker B:

And, and now, dad, did you find that you had more healing prior to or post having your own children?

Speaker C:

Oh, post for sure.

Speaker C:

And it's not even close.

Speaker C:

I had a prayer.

Speaker C:

Now I'm one of these people.

Speaker C:

I really believe that God speaks.

Speaker C:

I believe that his.

Speaker C:

That he can actually speak to us.

Speaker C:

And so one day I was praying and I said, God, I've got these babies and I want to love on them.

Speaker C:

And I've never seen what a loving father looks like.

Speaker C:

And he said, but you have seen what a loving Father, looks like, look at the way you're looking at your children.

Speaker C:

There was a moment in prayer when God was saying, look, I'm doing it now.

Speaker C:

See?

Speaker C:

See, what happens in our brain sometimes is that our mind will start to look at our lack.

Speaker C:

What we don't have experience with, what we haven't done, what we haven't seen.

Speaker C:

Our brains go to very negative spaces.

Speaker C:

Transformation is about the.

Speaker C:

The renewing of the mind.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

It's about me being able to say, wait a second, it's not just about what hasn't been done, it's about what God is doing now.

Speaker C:

And I realized that the way that I look at my son is different than anyone looked at me.

Speaker C:

So I've seen the love of God.

Speaker C:

I realized that the way that I say, hey, you don't need me to yell at you right now.

Speaker C:

You need me to gently explain something to you or to give you grace, or for me to say, hey, I'm sorry, I got it wrong.

Speaker C:

That all of those moments, God is showing me who he is as he's working on my character.

Speaker C:

And I think that for anybody who is, maybe they're starting fatherhood now, they're starting motherhood now, and they're saying, I have so many wounds.

Speaker C:

If you let God use the journey you're on, he will heal those wounds through the parenting, through the marriage, through whatever it is that you're going through.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

100 agree with you, man.

Speaker B:

That's good.

Speaker B:

I remember, like, when I was first having my kids, right before I struggled through the father wounds, like, two years, God took me on some intensives.

Speaker B:

And I remember him saying to me, he said, he says, I'm about to do something in your life that you have no frame of reference for.

Speaker B:

And then we, like, literally two, three months later, we found out we were pregnant.

Speaker B:

Right after I heard that.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker B:

And it was just like my life has been like, you have no frame of reference, but I'm gonna show you.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, no, I connect with your story, man.

Speaker B:

I appreciate it.

Speaker B:

So let's move into some questions, like some direction, where it goes.

Speaker B:

Because you're a stage speaker, you're finding healing.

Speaker C:

Yep.

Speaker B:

And you're.

Speaker B:

You've been through some really traumatic things.

Speaker B:

How do you maintain that health, being in the limelight once, being somebody who needed the limelight.

Speaker B:

How do you maintain that healthy, that health, the atmosphere on the inside of you?

Speaker C:

It's a great question.

Speaker C:

I.

Speaker C:

I think it goes to my heart posture, which is that obedience is greater than sacrifice.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

And so for me to Be obedient.

Speaker C:

I have to get in front of the people and I have to about my, my mouth.

Speaker C:

But part of my obedience is that I have to be willing to be and live the testimony.

Speaker C:

So I can't just get in front of everybody and say, hey, I'm a polished speaker.

Speaker C:

Look how good I am.

Speaker C:

I have to be able to show you I'm a polished speaker who God has re rescued.

Speaker C:

Look how much he's done.

Speaker C:

So I, I realize that there has to be a level of vulnerability in me when I speak.

Speaker C:

I have to tell the stories maybe I'd rather not tell.

Speaker C:

I have to be honest about the things I'd rather not be honest about because it's in my vulnerability that people actually see God.

Speaker C:

It's when I say, hey, I don't have it all together.

Speaker C:

I'm still praying, I'm still working.

Speaker C:

I still get it wrong with my wife, I still get it wrong with my kids, and yet I'm still here.

Speaker C:

Right?

Speaker C:

That's when people not only see themselves and can identify themselves, they can see God's hand now.

Speaker C:

And that has been the thing that kind of stabilizes me, that humbles me and that really grounds me to the moments with the work that I do.

Speaker B:

So then what is like something like you would say right now, this is something I still struggle with or struggle through.

Speaker B:

What is something that, what does that look like?

Speaker C:

Great question.

Speaker C:

Self doubt is the first one that comes to mind.

Speaker C:

I have confidence issues.

Speaker C:

So when I'm speaking right now, I don't have any confidence issues.

Speaker C:

I believe that I am offering up whatever it is that is needed for the moment because I'm tapped in.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker C:

The moment this interview is over, my brain starts going, oh my gosh, did you say that right?

Speaker C:

Did you do that right?

Speaker C:

Did you handle this right?

Speaker C:

I don't know if this was the best way.

Speaker C:

Oh, you probably screwed this.

Speaker C:

Is anybody really going to listen?

Speaker C:

And so I have to go through the journey of finding my confidence in God.

Speaker C:

That is an ongoing process.

Speaker C:

I, whether I'm speaking at a school, preaching from a stage, whatever I'm doing, the attack comes to my mind afterwards.

Speaker C:

And so it is finding the confidence and the courage to be all the way myself and to not let those doubts and worries stop me because they can muffle me if I'm not careful, they will silence me.

Speaker C:

Oh, I guess I don't have anything to say after all.

Speaker B:

So I find this is valuable.

Speaker B:

This is super valuable.

Speaker B:

So what does that process look like?

Speaker B:

Because saying I, I'm trying To find the confidence is everybody's going to have that.

Speaker B:

Oh, what they think that looks like.

Speaker B:

But what is that for you?

Speaker B:

I'm looking for the confidence of God.

Speaker B:

Walk us through some of that.

Speaker C:

Absolutely.

Speaker C:

We talk a lot in life about soul searching.

Speaker C:

The question is, are you actually searching for your soul?

Speaker C:

And then for the believer, are you searching for the spirit that is supposed to be guiding the soul?

Speaker C:

That's the journey.

Speaker C:

One thing that I say to people all the time when I'm dealing with professionals and working with professionals is they say, look, we've been taught that we're supposed to be different people professionally and personally.

Speaker C:

I think that's a bunch of crap.

Speaker C:

Because the reality is the one thing that is similar between your personal you and your professional you, you.

Speaker C:

You're always there.

Speaker C:

If you're off at home, it often leads you to being off at work.

Speaker C:

If you're off at work, you'll take it home.

Speaker C:

And though we learn how to compartment to a certain level, there's a cross section.

Speaker C:

So anytime that.

Speaker C:

That I lose my confidence, I have to say, step one, let me evaluate what's happening on the inside of me.

Speaker C:

What are the voices of criticism saying to me?

Speaker C:

I have to know because you cannot fix what you do not identify.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker C:

I'm going to say that again because somebody needs it.

Speaker C:

You cannot fix what you don't identify.

Speaker C:

So you have to know what the voice is saying.

Speaker C:

Now I have to say, all right, what of those things is true?

Speaker C:

There could be some truth in the criticism.

Speaker C:

Sometimes your brain knows things and has identified some issues.

Speaker C:

Okay, do those things actually make me a bad person?

Speaker C:

Do these things actually make me a bad communicator?

Speaker C:

Does it actually mean I didn't do a good job?

Speaker C:

I try to find the truth, and then I challenge the lies.

Speaker C:

My brain is telling me that I didn't show up, but I actually did show up.

Speaker C:

And I remember in the middle of it that, blah, blah, blah, I begin to challenge myself with the truth.

Speaker C:

Scripture says that we are more than overcomers, right?

Speaker C:

Which means we're not just overcomers.

Speaker C:

So that tells me I don't just have to overcome something because I can rest in the peace of God even before I've overcome it.

Speaker C:

I'm more than an overcomer.

Speaker C:

So I'm saying, God is always peace.

Speaker C:

Where is God right now?

Speaker C:

While my brain is anxious, while my brain is worried, my.

Speaker C:

While my brain is overwhelmed, where's God?

Speaker C:

And I.

Speaker C:

And I actually take deep breaths and I begin to scan.

Speaker C:

He says he will never leave me or forsake me.

Speaker C:

Even when I'm in the valley of the shadow of death, he's behind me.

Speaker C:

So if that's the case, where's God?

Speaker C:

Where's Holy Spirit?

Speaker C:

Where is He?

Speaker C:

I.

Speaker C:

Those are times to pray.

Speaker C:

Those are times to remind yourself of a scripture that's helpful for you.

Speaker C:

Those are sometimes times to journal or write things down.

Speaker C:

But what I tell people is you have to know how you feel.

Speaker C:

You have to understand what is true and what you feel.

Speaker C:

Then you have to challenge what is not.

Speaker C:

To find the place of peace.

Speaker C:

That's.

Speaker C:

It's a journey.

Speaker C:

It's a process.

Speaker C:

It doesn't look the same every time.

Speaker C:

Sometimes I think one of the problems we have as humans is we want everything to be robotic.

Speaker C:

Everybody wants to sell you three steps to peace and five steps to financial.

Speaker C:

Okay, right, that's great.

Speaker C:

But the reality is, right, even in the midst of a step, there's going to be a process.

Speaker C:

So whatever it is that you're working on, it's always going to be harder than they make it seem.

Speaker C:

Because the process changes day by day.

Speaker C:

Because you change day by day.

Speaker B:

Man, that's so good.

Speaker B:

So as we start landing this episode, there's one question and then two.

Speaker B:

Two.

Speaker B:

Well, actually three questions.

Speaker B:

So the first one, before we get down, how do you stay sharp?

Speaker C:

Oh, good question.

Speaker C:

I keep living life and I try to stay.

Speaker C:

I try to stay awake.

Speaker C:

Okay, here's what I mean.

Speaker C:

Do you ever get those moments where you drive somewhere and you get to the place and you don't know how you got there?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

You get to the work day and you start the process and you look up one day and you lost your day.

Speaker C:

I work to stay awake and mindful.

Speaker C:

Sometimes I set alarms for myself.

Speaker C:

The alarm goes off and I go, hey, are you around?

Speaker C:

Are you there?

Speaker C:

Are we with it?

Speaker C:

I work to stay present when I'm around my family, when I'm in.

Speaker C:

When I'm around my friends and my presence may not look like yours.

Speaker C:

I'm pretty introverted.

Speaker C:

I'm actually quiet, which shocks people.

Speaker C:

So for me, it is, am I present?

Speaker C:

Because anytime you're present, you have the ability to stay sharp because you're honed in.

Speaker C:

You're locked in.

Speaker C:

What is best for me right now?

Speaker C:

What is the thing that I need right now?

Speaker C:

When you're.

Speaker C:

When you've fallen asleep and you've been lulled asleep, there is no fine tuning.

Speaker C:

So for me, it is a constant process of making sure I'm here, fully here.

Speaker C:

I like to listen to music.

Speaker C:

Music helps me a lot since I'm a musician, right?

Speaker C:

I listen to a lot of worship music.

Speaker C:

I sit and I pr.

Speaker C:

I meditate.

Speaker C:

I try to like get into that place of just.

Speaker C:

I'm listening to meditation music right now.

Speaker C:

You guys just don't know it.

Speaker C:

It's instrumental worship music.

Speaker C:

So I listen to music and I just get my head to go away and quiet my mind and get to a place where it's me and God.

Speaker C:

Those are the ways that I personally try to fine tune.

Speaker C:

I have different things that I share with clients when I work with clients as well.

Speaker C:

But even what I shared about the alarms, that's one of the first things I tell clients.

Speaker C:

Set an alarm for yourself.

Speaker C:

Four or five alarms during your day.

Speaker C:

The alarm goes off, ask yourself, are you really there?

Speaker C:

Are you really present?

Speaker C:

And if not, what can you do to hone the skill right now?

Speaker C:

Do you need to take a walk?

Speaker C:

Do you need to take a breath?

Speaker C:

Do you need to write something down?

Speaker C:

Do you need to remind yourself of a scripture?

Speaker C:

Do you need to call a friend and get some perspective?

Speaker C:

Do you need to watch a video?

Speaker C:

What needs to happen?

Speaker C:

And so I let that prompt people, in order to take action, to fine tune.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's really good.

Speaker B:

My wife, what did she do?

Speaker B:

She bought bands.

Speaker B:

The old school, like rubber.

Speaker B:

That Rubber bands you put on your wrist.

Speaker B:

And each one of them are different colors, like four or five different colors.

Speaker B:

And it says, check in with yourself.

Speaker C:

Oh, that's good.

Speaker B:

She wears a different color every day.

Speaker B:

So with that being said, side note, curiosity.

Speaker B:

Instrument.

Speaker B:

Do you play?

Speaker B:

Singer.

Speaker C:

Singer.

Speaker B:

I figured that.

Speaker B:

So I'm a former trumpet player.

Speaker B:

That was more out of my own personal curiosity.

Speaker C:

I was also a low brass player.

Speaker C:

I first went to college as a euphonium player, if you know what that is.

Speaker B:

I do, I do.

Speaker B:

I was a brass player for a while.

Speaker B:

Trumpet.

Speaker B:

So with that being said, as we come down to the episode and you of the audience know where we're heading with this, we asked the question, what is a wisdom bomb you would leave for the guest, for the listener.

Speaker B:

And that is simply somebody portable truth that they can take and put in their lives today.

Speaker B:

What would that be for you?

Speaker B:

What would be your hashtag wisdom bomb?

Speaker C:

Everything that you need, you have.

Speaker C:

So often in life we think that something is missing on the inside of us.

Speaker C:

And so we go searching for this magical mythical thing that will help us be healthy and whole.

Speaker C:

But the truth is that you were created in the image of God.

Speaker C:

You were fearfully and wonderfully made.

Speaker C:

The Lord is your shepherd, so you lack nothing.

Speaker C:

And so there's the understanding that everything you need is already there right now.

Speaker C:

Stop looking for something in friends.

Speaker C:

Stop looking for something in the latest fad and the latest trend, and realize that everything you have is already within you.

Speaker B:

Powerful.

Speaker B:

How do we find you?

Speaker B:

How do people connect with you?

Speaker C:

Come find me online.

Speaker C:

You can find me on my website, mauricefmartin.com there's some freebies there.

Speaker C:

You can sign up for the mailing list.

Speaker C:

Maybe you've heard me today and you thought, man, I really want to bring you in to speak somewhere.

Speaker C:

You can sign up right there.

Speaker C:

Also, I do free clarity calls.

Speaker C:

So if somebody said, hey, you know what, I'd love to just run some things by you.

Speaker C:

You can do a free clarity call with me.

Speaker C:

I'd love to sit down and talk to you and see if you might even be a good fit to be one of my coaching clients.

Speaker C:

So that's the easiest way.

Speaker C:

And then of course, social media at Maurice F.

Speaker C:

Martin on all social media.

Speaker B:

Awesome.

Speaker B:

And so for you, the listener, we will be putting that in the show notes for you so that make them make sure it's easy, it's accessible.

Speaker B:

And for you to go and connect with Maurice here because powerful man of God, powerful in what he's doing because you can tell from this episode that he's gone through a lot and he's overcome a lot.

Speaker B:

So make sure you connect.

Speaker B:

With that being said, Maurice, thank you for being on the show with us today.

Speaker C:

Hey, thank you again for having me.

Speaker C:

This is great, what you're doing, and I hope it goes far.

Speaker B:

I appreciate that.

Speaker B:

And for you, the listener, you have been listening to Grace in the Grind, well, we're here to tell the inspiring stories behind some of the successful entrepreneurs that you and I know.

Speaker B:

And with that being said, make sure you leave a comment or review on whatever platform you're listening to and I'll see you on the next episode or even a previous one.

Speaker B:

But with that being said, we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker A:

This has been Grace and the Grind.

Speaker A:

We hope you've enjoyed the show.

Speaker A:

If you did, make sure to, like, rate and review.

Speaker A:

And we'll be back soon, but in the meantime, find us on social media.

Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

Take care of yourself, and we'll see you next time on Grace in the Grind.

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Grace In The Grind
Faith, Business, and Leadership: Equipping Christian Entrepreneurs
Welcome to Grace In The Grind, the podcast where faith meets entrepreneurship. Join host Jim Burgoon as he delves into the behind-the-scenes stories of entrepreneurs who have navigated the challenges of business and leadership while staying true to their Christian faith. Each week, tune in for a mix of inspiring solo episodes and insightful interviews that explore overcoming mindset and behavioral obstacles, growing your business, and launching what God has in store for you. Designed for Christian leaders and entrepreneurs at the beginning and emerging stages of their journey, this podcast aims to equip you with practical advice, encouragement, and hope. Whether you're facing growth struggles or seeking to find your footing in the ever-changing world of entrepreneurship, Grace In The Grind is here to support and uplift you on your path to success. Subscribe now and let’s press forward together!

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